Reaching Venom
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30 points in Assassination rows 1 to 6Output
Venom (row 7) can take its pointVenom needs 30 points spent above row 7 and Mutilate at max rank.
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Plan WoW Forever Rogue talents across Assassination, Combat and Subtlety: all 53 talents, every rank's text, Classic changes and build links.
Version 1.1.0 · Last updated Oct 18, 2026
Beta client build 1.60.1.70425 · updated 18 Oct 2026
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Talent data: WoW Forever beta client build 1.60.1.70425, imported 2026-10-18 from talentsforever.com (CC BY 4.0).
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30 points in Assassination rows 1 to 6Output
Venom (row 7) can take its pointVenom needs 30 points spent above row 7 and Mutilate at max rank.
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15 points spent above row 4 of a treeOutput
Assassination opens Cold Blood; Combat opens Flawless Execution; Subtlety opens PremeditationThese are WoW Forever's new one-point milestone talents at 16 points.
Rogues have 53 talents, two more than in Classic; 11 are unchanged, 31 changed and 9 new. Seven Classic talents are gone, among them Improved Backstab and three of the weapon specializations in Combat; Sword Specialization lives on as Hack and Slash.
The 31-point talents are the new Venom for Assassination, Adrenaline Rush (unchanged) for Combat and the new Thousand Cuts for Subtlety. The 16-point talents are Cold Blood, Flawless Execution and Premeditation.
A WoW Forever Assassination Rogue spends most points in this tree. Mutilate joins the Assassination tree: an attack with both weapons that deals more damage to poisoned targets and awards two combo points. Venom, the new 31-point talent, is a finishing move that raises poison damage and application chance for longer with more combo points. Cold Blood now also works with Mutilate.
A WoW Forever Combat Rogue spends most points in this tree. Combat replaces Dagger, Mace, Sword and Fist Weapon Specialization with Hack and Slash, one five-rank talent whose bonus depends on the weapon: up to a 5% chance of an extra attack with axes and swords, up to 5% critical strike chance with daggers and fist weapons, and up to 15% armor ignored with maces. Puncturing Wounds replaces Improved Backstab and also raises Mutilate’s critical strike chance and gives Backstab a chance at an extra combo point. Flawless Execution lowers the Energy cost of Eviscerate.
A WoW Forever Subtlety Rogue spends most points in this tree. Subtlety gains utility and a new finisher loop. Dirty Tricks makes Sap and Blind cheaper, Improved Distract widens Distract, Quietus adds damage below 35% health, Cutthroat can let Ambush skip Stealth after a Backstab, and Thousand Cuts makes Rupture ticks lower the cost of Hemorrhage and Backstab.
Every point you spend is written to the page address, so a WoW Forever Rogue build is saved the moment you make it. Copy the build link to post it in your guild chat or a guide; opening it restores the same points, level and Legacy Talented rank. Your last Rogue build also stays in this browser, and the Legacy talents planner works the same way for your account perks.
53, compared with 51 in Classic. 9 are new, 31 changed, 2 moved and 11 unchanged, and 7 Classic Rogue talents were removed.
Venom in Assassination; Adrenaline Rush in Combat; Thousand Cuts in Subtlety.
Mutilate and Venom in Assassination; Puncturing Wounds and Flawless Execution in Combat; Dirty Tricks, Improved Distract, Quietus, Cutthroat and Thousand Cuts in Subtlety.
Yes. Mutilate is a 21-point Assassination talent that attacks with both weapons and awards two combo points.
You get one talent point per level from level 10, so with every point in one tree you reach its one-point talents at levels 20, 25, 30 and 40. Assassination: Relentless Strikes at level 20, Cold Blood at 25, Mutilate at 30 and Venom at 40; Combat: Riposte at level 20, Flawless Execution at 25, Blade Flurry at 30 and Adrenaline Rush at 40; Subtlety: Ghostly Strike at level 20, Premeditation at 25, Preparation or Hemorrhage at 30 and Thousand Cuts at 40. Some need a prerequisite at max rank first, and the Legacy perk Talented moves each step up to 5 levels earlier. Set your level in the calculator to see exactly what fits.
Yes, through Hack and Slash. Sword Specialization became Hack and Slash, a five-rank Combat talent whose bonus depends on your weapon: up to a 5% chance of an extra attack with swords and axes, up to 5% critical strike chance with daggers and fist weapons, and up to 15% of the target's armor ignored with maces.
It uses WoW Forever beta client build 1.60.1.70425, from the 15 October 2026 beta update, and the build and import date are shown at the top of the calculator. When Blizzard changes the Rogue trees in a new build, the trees, the talent reference and this page are updated and the change is listed in the changelog.